Timperley Family History and Genealogy
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- November 8, 2004
I have been trying to find out about visits by Queen Elizabeth 1st (1533-1603) to Hintlesham Hall. would you know if this information is correct and also what route from London would she have taken. I have known the Hall for more than thirty years and was lucky enough to be shown around the interior by Mr Stokes, a previous owner. We enjoyed concerts & garden parties, organised by him in the grounds, therefore I have great interest in this lovely house. could you help, many thanks, Terry Emery, terry(at)emery3184.freeserve.co.uk- Have you read the book"Timperley of Hintlesham a study of a Suffolk family",
Ryan, (London 1931)? In this book there is a description of her visit of 5th August 1579
and a list of sources from which it was taken. I have transcribed the text (below).
--------------------------------------- The house must have been completed just about the
year 1579, when Thomas Timperley's distant cousin, the Queen, rode past this way on one of
her many summer 'progresses'. She had left her chief officers of state at Greenwich, when
she set out thence on 5th August. Travelling by way of Gosfield to Smallbridge, the home
of the Waldegraves, where she stayed for two days, she set out thence for Ipswich on the
22nd August, staying in that town for four days before she returned by way of Harwich and
Colchester. Her direct route between Smallbridge and Ipswich would include the (old) road
past the Hall at Hintlesham, and even if she did not stay her journey to be welcomed by
her kinsman, he must certainly have borne his share in the entertainment provided for her
at the neighbouring town of Ipswich.
Little is know of the exact manner in which the men of Ipswich entertained the Queen in 1579. Perhpas they had longer notice of her coming than Norwich had received in the preceding summer, for the Town Chamberlains accounted for twelve shillings spent on the charges of two of her guard who came to 'make provyssyon for the Queen's coming to town'. ---------------------------------------
I believe I have no other information on her visit. You may wish to contact the Bakers. Ken and Marjorie Baker are a resource for information on the Timperley of Hintlesham. They have published a guide book in 1988 to St Nicholas Church in Hintlesham. This church was used by the Timperleys of Hintlesham and contains much history on this family. Their address is: Mr. Kenneth L. Baker Q.P.M, "Burneston", Silver Hill, Hintlesham, Ipswich, IP8 3NJ England. If you do contact them, please give them our warmest regards. Katrina and I have found memories of our visit in 1999. Mark Timperley
- Have you read the book"Timperley of Hintlesham a study of a Suffolk family",
Ryan, (London 1931)? In this book there is a description of her visit of 5th August 1579
and a list of sources from which it was taken. I have transcribed the text (below).
--------------------------------------- The house must have been completed just about the
year 1579, when Thomas Timperley's distant cousin, the Queen, rode past this way on one of
her many summer 'progresses'. She had left her chief officers of state at Greenwich, when
she set out thence on 5th August. Travelling by way of Gosfield to Smallbridge, the home
of the Waldegraves, where she stayed for two days, she set out thence for Ipswich on the
22nd August, staying in that town for four days before she returned by way of Harwich and
Colchester. Her direct route between Smallbridge and Ipswich would include the (old) road
past the Hall at Hintlesham, and even if she did not stay her journey to be welcomed by
her kinsman, he must certainly have borne his share in the entertainment provided for her
at the neighbouring town of Ipswich.
- November 2, 2004
I saw your website and was interested in it, and how my family might fit into it as we all live in somerset and are linked to the bradfords. I know that we originate from the north, but am intrigued about it. thanks kate kate.temperley(at)gmail.com- I received your email via Mark. I know that Julian Harold Vazeille Temperley's lineage (he makes Brandy cider if I recall) is fairly well documented - are you related to Julian? There are I think two different Temperley branches that are in your area current day. If you are able to establish your lineage back prior to 1900, we can check the various the Temperley family trees submitted over the years, and see if we can find a match. Genealogy being so dependant on sources of birth and marriage registration information, it's actually easier to trace lineage prior to 1900 because more information resides in the public domain. If memory serves, some of the Temperleys in Somerset current day can trace their lineage back to a Nicholas Temperley, shown in the research folder on the web by clicking at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg05.htm#8 There are about 16 families enumerated on the index starting at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/index.htm If you need any additional information, or would like to be on the emailing list, let me know. Regards, Bill Thompson Washington State, U.S.william.thompson1(at)att.net
- October 27, 2004
Leonard Temperley/Timperley (1550) once again was written about, this time in NorthEast History (Northern Echo), at http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/the_north_east/history/echomemories/durham/180604.htmlThe web site refers to Leonard Timperley in the post dissolution period as 'a retired soldier' and spells his name with an 'e'. I've tried to contact David Simpson, the author, to find out his source, but am not able to get a response. The Durham university archives summaries don't appear to mention anything about his occupation but do match the same Leonard Timperley. There were Timperleys in Darlington as late as 1733. Apparently, readers can write to David Simpson, Durham Memories, The Northern Echo, Priestgate, Darlington, DL1 1NF or email David.Simpson(at)nne.co.uk. he writes:
"Sacrists were senior monks responsible for sacred relics, vessels, vestments, lighting, heating, sweeping and cleaning in a monastery."
Also called sextons or sacristans, their title derived from segrestein, a medieval English word of French origin. In the 1300s, the sacrist's manor was called Segrestaynheugh and was farmed and mined by Durham monks.
Rare discovery: St Peter's Parish Church, Sacriston. A Bronze Age cist was found nearby in 1889
The estate, but not the manor house, was let to some Durham City merchants in the 1400s. In the 1500s, the house was home to a retired soldier called Leonard Temperley.
Following the dissolution of the monasteries in the later 1500s, the house and estate passed to Durham Cathedral's Dean and Chapter. On a 1576 map, the manor is called Segerston Heugh but was sometimes called Sacristan Heugh.
When the mining village developed in the 19th Century, it adopted the name Sacriston rather than Sacristan because it looked more like a village name. However, many local people still use the old pronunciation, Segerston.
The Durham Univ Library collection as I mentioned earlier, has poor Leanard being evicted for chopping down a tree - and has this:
19 January 1574f. 71r-v Appointment of Prebendary Robert Bellamy and [space for two or three other names] as the Dean and Chapter's attornies to take possession of the manor of Sacristanhough from Leonard Timperley, who has felled trees contrary to the terms of his lease.
20 March 1574f. 76r Elizabeth I's grant of an almsman's place to Gilbert Spence, in the room of Andrew Tuggell, who plans to go and fight in Ireland.
1574ff. 76v-77r Appointment of Prebendary Robert Bellamy, George Lightfole, Richard Johnson, Jasper Horseley and John Richardson as the Dean and Chapter's attornies to take possession of the manor of Sacristonhough from Leonard Timperley
Bill william.thompson1(at)att.net - October 20, 2004
Since I haven't sent out a newsletter in a while, I decided to expand on Margaret's recent findings and will follow up next month with Rosemary's transcriptions from Ebenezer. Lately, many Northeast branches are popping through to current day, with the exception as per usual of the Hexham branch. Most of the chart is numbered at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/TemperleyDesc.htm, though since early this year the twenty or so known branches are numbered and the simplified format is at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/index.htm The mysteries generated from Hexham abound, which I'll expand on.Descendant's transcription of Mason's genealogy for the Hexham branch is folded in at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg04.htm#221C
Sharon Brown found the will of Mary Fairless Temperley - who you have noted as 1) below. She found the will of (husband) Nicholas numbered X.343.2, the progenitor of Wm Angus Temperley.
What I find very Interesting is that the Mason genealogy never documented (nor anyone documented to my knowledge) the wills that Sharon found. So we may have some information that the current family doesn't have - if only we could find a Hexham Temperley. The wills don't have much new genealogical information, but do detail the houses at Temperley Place Hencoates which remain today.
Although William Angus Temperley was intent that his offspring not move from Northumberland, later generations more often than not did move South mostly to London. WAT as you probably know was a humanitarian and his children seemed to have a 'self-study' bent, and their clippings, research notes and etc. were found by Sharon in the archives as well. Correspondence of grandchildren with other surnames shows discussion of Wm Angus, but never any detail of Male relatives.
The family that donated the fountain at the turn of the century was represented by a female descendant, and again no mention of male descendants in the Hexham area. Most of the grandchildren (and there were many) tended to go to the maritime industry. Note that the monument is on the endangered list because of its current condition and materials used.
Mary Fairless Temperley's daughter Jane Temperley married a man with a very unique surname, one John Notman. One of the Notman's sent a sketch of the Angus lineage that includes Mary Ann ( item 1 below) and it is a fairly robust genealogy. I also have Jane's picture, taken with a huge fur that is absolutely stunning to see because it is so rarely seen today - in her era there was no sensitivity about such things - I can best describe the fur by saying it looks very much like the animal decided to curl up around Jane. The descendant notes for the lineage are mostly at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg09.htm#396
The fountain in front of the abbey - future uncertain - and the details of the unveiling including the inscription by Wilfred Wilson Gibson are in the research folder http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg07.htm#383
[one of the lines reads 'where pipes the curlew and the plover calls...' which I though was interesting ]
The ceremony to launch the fountain was marred by the poet's absence - he apparently decided to not show up for reasons unknown.
<< 3} Joseph Temperley of Louvaine House, Hexham b. June 5 1856, died July 4 1924. Margaret Isabella b. jan 8 1860, died July 23 1942. Their son James Curthorn died Nov 27 1943 aged 51 and daughter Elizabeth Florence died Dec 2 1961 aged 73 years. No record of this family. >>
That's an interesting find - no descendants records for this Joseph, per se, although there are some unlinked records for a Joseph that is not bound to the current genealogy. The nearest dates for a Joseph we have is Joseph born abt 1857, per census records, first child of Nicholas Temperley numbered 1.3414.4 mother Eleanor who married Nicholas as a widow with married name Galloway, surname unknown. Nicholas 1.3414.4 was the fourth child of Cuthbert Temperley 1.341.4, descendant's folder at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg05.htm#92
Note that Cuthbert's father George was the first of the first of the first - also the first to die intestate - the administration in the possession of Peter Wright who is on the mailing list. It illustrates the supportive nature of the family as all of the children were apprenticed in varying occupations at one time or another - the other members of the family taking children under their wing, particularly Matthew - who died at Kidsgrove, Staffs. Matthew was the first Hexham Temperley, and was the first to leave Hexham The canal era being one of the factors that scattered the family.
Mary Ann Fairless (abt 1818 - 8 Jan 1873) ; descendant's research notes in the folder at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg05.htm#381
(daughter Jane, who married John Notman, gave a genealogical sketch of her Mother's Angus lineage to one of her children, and the sketch, along with pictures of Jane Notman, are on loan to me from one of the Notmans. The Angus genealogy is solid- Mary Fairless Temperley's mother was an Angus)
- Sharon Brown found Mary's will, husband and Hexham progenitor Nicholas' will, collections of self-study for descendants of William Angus Temperley including the descendant with the same name, at the archives. The notable fact from Mary's will is the substantiation of the houses at Temperley place Hencoates, numbered in the will and still in existance.
<< 2) I think this is a reference to Joseph, son of Joseph of Hexham, numbered X.3432.4 on the chart. He has an extensive historical record for a variety of reasons - he was ill for a long time and there were court documents. We have his birth and death records, he never married. Occupation corn merchant (they were all Corn Merchants /retired to farming.) >>
The father Joseph Temperley X.3432 was step brother to Wm Angus Temperley, and it is significant that many of his land transactions reside at Durham University. descendant's research notes in the folder at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/web/fam1/pafg07.htm#379
Other sources: [History of Crobridge and It's Antiquities, with a concise history of Dilston Hall and it's Associations (Pub J. Beall, Printer, Newcastle, 1881 ]
The Corbridge area transaction at Durham library is probably this Joseph. The agricultural boom coincided with Joseph's improvement of many acres that were not farmed previously around Corbridge; he sold many acres as well. Temperley Grange is still very much a part of the countryside - Joseph X.3432 may have had some scientific knowledge - I mention this because he farmed land that had never been farmed.
<< 4) Hannah T wife of Wm >>
Hannah Eddy, was buried from Shotley 8 Sep 1751 Her marriage to Wm Temperley is one of the first to be recorded at Shotley, and William, despite being illiterate, as so many were in that era, was witness to many early marriages there. Beth Warren found the monuments at Blanchland to be in a delicate state. William is numbered 133 on the chart - he was christened 15 Nov. 1712, and died 2 Nov 1765. His father George Temperley, who married Ann Errington, is the first fully documented family…
George, being number 1.3 on the tree, is of course the third child of William who is related to all of us and we him. He was buried 20 Jul, 1713.
Temperley being a unique name, there were certain variations caused by parish records recorded by curate, as one can imagine.
This genealogy is extensively detailed because there are no current day descendants - the logic here is that the information available for him enabled other branches of the tree to blossom, by 'negative proofing'. His lineage is, genealogically, fairly certain to be an 'end of line', because of the dates of death of his children.
William can be viewed by some to be a link to the Hunstanworth Temperleys because of the time and location of his residence relative to coal mining records thought to be attachable to George Temperley, pregenitor of the Hunstanworth Branch. Because of the similar nature of involvement in what can best be described as a 'unique' church at Blanchland, the gap in the Fallowfield records attributable to later generations thought to be caused by the records that have gone missing from St. John Lee in the period 1748-1751, this certainly notches up the probability that George of Hunstanworth was the brother of Nicholas of Stublick and John of Allerwash.
[Sources: Lead Mining Bargains - Book 133 Stogill Burn 9 Jun 1753 - Note that Stogill Burn is not an identifiable location but is definitely Weardale. There is a Stogel Cleugh above Boltsburn which could be a modern spelling]
George of Fallowfield was entered with spelling Timperley at the birth of sister Frances Wood's child. Because a Thomas Timperley (with an 'i'), 'a papist', was married at Hexham only a few years ealier, some view this as proof positive that the Temperley family is definitely not related to the Timperley surname, while some regard this as another question mark.
There is overwhelming evidence that the individuals born in the 1750 period were definitely protestant - as example Matthew Temperley being baptized, married, and buried Protestant.
So there is some significance in the Hexham Temperleys provable affiliation with Baptist, then Congregationalist, then Presbyterian churches. Half of us have Presbyterian roots, half of us being of the massively populated Hunstanworth Branch, have Methodist roots.
<<5) Joseph T of Blanchland died Dec 9 1845 aged 49, wife Hannah has a grandchild buried with them named Emma Donna. Whose child was she ? >>
That's a tough one - though Alec's Hunstanworth genealogy pretty much ensures that he was either a Muggleswick Temperley or a Hunstanworth genealogy. From my recollection, his records are provable, because he managed to make it onto the 1841 census before he died - Alec knows a lot about this branch, as well as Beth. The dates at death may have been incorrectly stated in Records - I imagine that Hannah Colpitts and Emma Donna, who you noted as well, figure into the equation somehow.
As you can imagine, the Hunstanworth descendancy was one of the primary reasons why we decided to go ahead and number the individuals and familys - there are so many that are genealogically sound, that it seemed logical to go ahead and enumerate all the branches - and since Alec and generations before him had already charted the branch, it pops through to current day several times, all around the world.
When the tree reached the size of over 500 individuals, we decided to go ahead and number the lineages, and include unlinked lineages in the numbering and enumerate each branch. The index in this simplified format is shown at http://www.ejeej.com/Content/Genealogy/index.htm
Family one pretty much includes all of the indexed families.
Bill william.thompson1(at)att.net
- September 8, 2004
I posted a message yesterday on your TIMPERLEY website, searching for relatives of Flt.Sgt. Leonard Joseph Timperley, R.A.F. b. 1924, but am not sure if I used the correct procedure for it. There is a memorial to Flt.Sgt. Timperley in Cheshire, U.K. and as the 60th anniversary of his death is approaching, I am anxious that any surviving relatives of his over there know about it. Perhaps you would be good enough to email me back as to the best way to go about this, given I live in Ontario, Canada. Yours truly, Marjorie Shelton, mjshelton(at)rogers.com- I'm sorry but the messages on the web site are not working correctly and I haven't been
able to figure out what the problem is. I think I am going to have to come up with an
alternate method for people to post messages. In the mean time, you may be able to post
your message on one of the other Timperley web sites, for example http://genforum.genealogy.com/timperley/.
I hope this helps. Mark Timperley
- Too bad you are having a problem with the "messages" section of your website, but hope you will be able to fix it, since people are still searching for Timperley relatives. I have a correspondent in Australia who is trying to track down her English ancestors, and we exchange notes. Thank you for the link to genforum, I shall check it out.
- I'm sorry but the messages on the web site are not working correctly and I haven't been
able to figure out what the problem is. I think I am going to have to come up with an
alternate method for people to post messages. In the mean time, you may be able to post
your message on one of the other Timperley web sites, for example http://genforum.genealogy.com/timperley/.
I hope this helps. Mark Timperley
- May 26, 2004
I posted a message in 1999 and since then have changed e-mail address - could this be added please. I have only traced back to early 1800 and am looking for a Samuel in Sheffield.
Rosemary Wilson rosemary.wilson3(at)btopenworld.com - May 24, 2004
Is the Chateau le Templey in France related to the Temperley's in England do you think? Mark Temperley, Stolt Offshore Gabon Mark.Temperley(at)stoltoffshore.com - May 24, 2004
Hi, my name is Kylee Grainger and I'm a descendant of a Timperley family in Ipswich, Queensland Australia. My grandmothers maiden name was Timperley. Her great grandparents (Thomas Wilbraham Ridgeway Timperley B. abt 1815 in Cheshire, England and Ann Carter [nee Edwards] B. abt 1816 in Wales M: 15 September 1849 in Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire) started our linage here in Ipswich Queensland and todate there's a lot . A lot more than I ever realised until recently. Anyway Thomas's parents were Samuel Timperley and Mary Ridgeway thats as far back as we know. We know nothing at all about them or any other family they may have had. If you or anyone else is able to help us find out any information on them or other family members it would be greatly appreciated. If you would like to any information on my linage of Timperleys for the web site let me know. The web site is great by the way. If possible I like to know where in Cheshire, England they came from and if there's any of my family descendants still around there. kyleeg(at)optusnet.com.au - April 22, 2004
I am trying to get in touch with you because William Henry Timperley was my great grand uncle.He wrote Bush Luck while in Western Australia. He was the superintendent of Rottnest Island and magistrate in Bunbury WA. He is mentioned in Richard Timperley's book 'Reluctant Heroes'. His sister Maud was my great grandmother. She married Henry Berridge a Master mariner. They produced Harold (my grandfather) and Jesse. Harold married Alice Harriet Lye, and when she died married my step grandmother Phyllis. Harold and Alice's sons were Harold and Basil, my father. I am in Canberra Australia, having migrated here in 1966, via India, Africa and England.
Sally Berridge, LPO Box 5069, University of Canberra, Bruce ACT 2617 sallyb(at)cybermac.com.au - January 18, 2004
My name is Tricia and I live near Sydney, Australia. I am not a Timperley decendant, actually I am trying to find out about are the BOYER and COUTET families.My grandfather Jack Henry Louis August BOYER was bought up in either Mauritius or South Africa by his aunts, Louise TIMPERLEY nee COUTET, Emily TICHMANN nee COUTET and Marie COUTET apparently his mother died (aged 18 years) giving birth to him and I don't know her name, I am guessing that her surname was Coutet or where my grandfather was born, I think Mauritius, I believe his father's name was Henry BOYER, that he was an architect and rather wealthy and I believe he is buried in Mahebourg, Mauritius. I also have general letters written in the early 1940's from Southsea Hants, England from Emily Tichmann and Marie Coutet who at this time were in their mid 80's, of their sister of Louise - I know nothing. I also knew that there was a mountain range was named after William Henry Timperley in the state of Western Australia, here in Australia. Also my grandfather came to Australia sometime around 1912/1913 eventually settling here after WW1 in 1919.
On surfing the net I came across Richard Timperley's Heros Galore Autobiography and low and behold I recognised the photo of Willima Henry Timperley as I have a very similar photo and a newspaper clipping announcing his recieving the Imperial Service Order - see file - Timperley WH.jpg. I have also attached one other photo of the Reverend William Thomas Postles Timperley - see file - VLA0002.PDF and VLA0004.PDF (back of photo). Sadly the majority of the photos do not indicate who they are of, maybe you or other members of the family can put a name to a face. If you are interested I can organise to scan and send to you although it may take some time to do all of them.
The interesting thing is why do I have this old photo album that belonged to my grandfather that has numerous photos that relate to the Timperley and Berridge families, majority of these photos are taken by "professional photographers" of the time in England as indicated on the photos and some are from Mauritius.
I wonder if you can shed any light on the fact that I have all these photos that seem to relate more to your family lineage than mine. During your research did you come across any information about my grandfather, great grandfather or anything of the aunts I have mentioned, I believe that Marie Coutet was a notable singer in her time, maybe there is something about that. I note that Frank Timperley was Inspector of Police in Mauritius, could he have been married to my great aunt Louise?? Do you know of any other history of your family in Mauritius.
Well I hope this has not been too boring for you - I am rather intrigued that I have your family photos that somehow obviously meant something to my grandfather and would love to find out more. My grandfather was apparently rather an enigma, having a decided mysteriousness about him - perhaps we are related somehow!!
Anyway get back to me - let me know what you think - thank you for taking the time to read this.
Regards - Tricia - from DownUnder ttricia1(at)optusnet.com.au